We also have Chad: A Fallout 76 Story, which is an audio drama that basically explores the question of what would happen if you were sealed in a vault with your school bully for most of your life, and had to live with them for the good of the community. In particular there’s this quote from Sermon 35: Later, and by that I mean much, much later, my reign will be seen as an act of the highest love, which is a return from the astral destiny and the marriages between. I think. The 36 Lessons also mentioned that Vivec and Molag Bal had children. We’ve also had the film podcast Fresh Tomatoes added to the mix recently, taking a look at those films that have had poor reviews and see if they really deserved them, and finding the films’ silver linings. This is particularly the case as "the heavens" (numbered 12) are plural in the 36 Lessons. Although, if we track the real-world development of Vivec, I’m sure I remember seeing a comment by MK that he didn’t have a clear conception of the Amaranth when he wrote the 36 Lessons, so I’m not sure that this is Amaranth as such rather than an expression of the idea of dharma, that a person or thing needs to follow what they were destined to be. Everything Vivec says take with a grain of salt because he has seen through kalpa's so he can say with certainty that things that never happened did happen because they happened in another time. Molag Bal and Vivec have 9 children. To paraphrase a reply by Satre to a moral quandary one of his students was in, â€œYou are free, so choose. The most memorable being the blazing halo of fire around his head, and the line in Vivec's prayer, "The fire is mine, let it consume thee." I was playing Morrowind just now, and as I was reading one of the 36 Lessons of Vivec, two thoughts came to me in rapid succession: These things sound like a Markov chain generator wrote them; I should write a Markov chain generator to write new lessons of Vivec; So I did. The "Trial of Vivec" clearly states that beyond Mundus, Azura wasn't fully within Vivecs grasp. He is to come as male or female. Ze may have been a git, but I can’t escape the thought that ze was a git with a plan, that we can only really see the half of. This is reflective of hir Anticipation in Mephala, but also in his attitude to truth. By that I mean the catastrophes, which will come from all five corners. That’s also why I’m using “ze”, by the way, rather than he or she. I may be reading far too much into this, but I think that Vivec intentionally left Lie Rock to fall and destroy Vivec City, in order to make hir people ready for a future without the Tribunal. Exactly what they are and what they represent is uncertain, with some thinking that they wind up as Daedric demiprinces. It’s very well-written and well-acted, and has had Wes Johnson’s stamp of approval on Twitter. The 36 Lessons has them meeting, in a way at least, on the way to Mournhold. You can also leave me a tip in the jar at Ko-fi. Vivec is one of two people we know of who could have CHIM. I will be referencing some of C0DA, so prior warning if you’re bothered about precise canon. By clicking on "Submit" below, you are certifying the following statements: Isn't this we're the animated YouTube video we're the dub over a lizard with his audio. Not all of this is immediately relevant to Vivec’s attitude to truth, but I think provides some context for the closing remarks on it, which certainly are. Chances are that you've heard of the (in)famous 36 Lessons of Vivec. I want to say, as usual, that this is my own understanding of who Vivec is, and definitely not the whole truth of the matter. We don’t know for sure that this is Vivec’s precise outlook, but it would fit with the metaphysics that Vivec seems to espouse. I’m really glad to be back into the swing of things, and sorry again for the long break. However, we have multiple accounts of hir regret at the act of killing Nerevar, and ze also says ze regrets breaking hir oath, as well. And… that’s all for this week. Come on, this is the guy who wrote the 36 Lessons of Vivec where he paired himself with freaking Molag Bal. MUATRA is Vivec’s “spear”, and also a representation of hir sexual organs. Vivec’s whole attitude towards Nerevar is interesting. This feels like Vivec anticipates either leading hir people through a range of catastrophes, or that ze will cause them. Your email address will not be published. He is known for his works on the lore that exists in The Elder Scrolls universe. The former: walk like them until they must walk like you. Vivec’s spoken dialogue in The Elder Scrolls III was written by one developer (I think Ken Rolston? He also wrote the 36 sermons himself, being that he knew the past i'm sure he knew of pelenial and could have easily wrote it this way on purpose. Reflective of that duality, Vivec states in hir Trial that: “Vehk the mortal did murder the Hortator. And yet are not, save for one red moment. We don’t know precisely how Vivec and Nerevar met. The Lessons repeatedly present certainty as a bad thing, and truth as a problem. However, there is also the manipulation of the Heart of Lorkhan that gave Vivec hir godhood. So quite what we can attribute to CHIM itself is an open question. However, the common consensus seems to be that it happened later, during an event called the Pomegranate Banquet in Sermon 14. Vivec found him in a grub field outside of the swamps of lessnos Deshaan Plain. A Podcast from the Grey Maybe of the Elder Scrolls, Spotify | Anchor | Apple Podcasts | Full List. You can also support the show on Patreon. It’s either that power that allowed the manipulation of time, or that of CHIM. Then Vivec threw his ink on this passage to cover it up (for the lay reader) and wrote instead: Find me in the blackened paper, unarmored, in final scenery. In order to learn how to move beyond limitation, you need to first be limited. I’ll be noting where the sources come from as I talk through them, so feel free to disregard any you don’t think are relevant. Vehk the God did not, and remains as written. I think it’s definitely something that Vivec had in mind for the Chimer and Dunmer. It is a work in progress but well worth your time if you wish to learn Vivec's mysteries. He's probably got some Nerevar/Dagoth fanfic lying around somewhere. However, given what we talked about earlier, it sounds like there was an element of willingness to submit to Bal, for hir own reasons. The Temple certainly puts a rather too rosy picture of what Vivec has done, but I’m not sure that we can see enough about hir motives. MUATRA is a representation of Vivec as a hermaphrodite, and as such takes milk as well, performing the role of a receptacle, which is the feminine vagina, uterus and womb. Vivec wanting to do and be everything speaks to a very similar way of expressing this, particularly when we think about the Amaranth, that is becoming the seed of a new universe. The name that it’s given should be an indication, too; MUATRA is called Milk-Taker, and if anything, a penis would be a milk giver. It is ours now. For example, one of the most striking persistent myths associated with Vivec is the story that Vivec conspired with his co-rulers Almalexia and Sotha Sil in the murder of Lord Nerevar, the greatest of Dunmer heroes and generals. Hir 36 Lessons are some of the biggest pieces of propaganda you’ll find in TES, although it’s not immediately obvious. Sermon 37 seems to take something of a more conventional view, some of the time. Despite that, we don’t know precisely when Vivec would have got it. The Anticipations and the House of Troubles represent 7 Daedra. There is a reference to “the heart bone” in Sermon 11, which is a clear reference to Lorkhan’s heart, in my view. MK has noted Shiva in particular as a large inspiration for how he sees Vivec, and I think this is one of those big areas. It’s certainly not their only purpose, I think. Vivec did clearly break hir oath to Nerevar, and the Tribunal Temple was an artificial construction created around the Tribunal. The latter is built from the cobbles of drawn-bone destiny. If the Heart can be considered a bone, then folding it and drinking its milk could be an oblique reference to the use of Kagrenac’s Tools on the Heart. I did some post-recording order jiggling to make the article flow better. I think this is part of why people worship Daedra at all, but that really needs its own cast. Vivec is a crack RPF writer. Anyway, Myth tells various stories from real-world mythologies and explores how they all connect. Vivec has been described as both in various places, I want to cover all possibilities here. 2) I should write a Markov chain generator to write new lessons of Vivec. It seems to value Sithis as a thing that shapes the universe, that brings great benefits and is praiseworthy, but not necessarily something to be worshipped. They can be anything, and do anything, within the cosmos of The Elder Scrolls. I think there are possibly two things going on here. Sermon 21 of the 36 Lessons declares that “the only name of God” is “I”, the self that can become the Amaranth. I think that both of these are likely true, given that Vivec in both ESO and Morrowind seems to be heavy with regret. Can be found randomly in loot containers or be bought from general goods vendors. And yes, this is almost the bit where we get to talk about all that spear-biting. Come on, this is the guy who wrote the 36 Lessons of Vivec where he paired himself with freaking Molag Bal. It’s the Observer position in the enantiomorph, the rule that holds both the rebel and the king in balance and then makes one the victor and one the vanquished. Describe the issue in detail. It’s pretty much impossible to separate out that from the benefits of CHIM, so we can’t know for sure whether Vivec has it. However, everything else about Vivec screams that ze is the one in the middle, which is closer to the Observer role, and what we’ll run with for now. And yet these two are the same being. The New Whirling School has also pointed out that Sermon 18 is where Vivec realises hir fundamental limits and nature, as well as actively discouraging others to follow in hir footsteps. I’ve seen several people claim that Vivec was potentially traumatised as a child, which is why ze ran away to Mournhold and has no father in the 36 Lessons. This also has some implications about why worship the Daeda, but I think that probably deserves its own episode, as it’s a question that I see around a lot. There’s a line in Sermon 4 where Vivec drinks the milk of a folded bone of the earth and “became a ruling king of the world”. god? He's probably got some Nerevar/Dagoth fanfic lying around somewhere. The New Whirling School is a guide to interpreting the rich, deep and challenging series of books, The 36 Lessons of Vivec. Kirkbride wrote for both Morrowind and Oblivion, as well as for the Action-Adventure spin-off Redguard. Truth is like my husband: instructed to smash, filled with procedure and noise, hammering, weighty, heaviness made schematic, lessons learned only … So how did Vivec get the point of changing hir past and manipulating time? 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